During a spirited discussion on Fox Nation's "Deep Dive," Charlie Kirk challenged socialist political activist Brian Moore to point to one country where his proposed policies have worked.

Kirk, the founder and president of Turning Point USA, argued that the free enterprise system is the most "moral, proven and effective" economic system, and the "pure" socialism that Moore advocates for is a "rejection" of the Western, civil society that we live in today.

Moore, who's even further left than self-described Democratic socialists like Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) and Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.), noted that the U.S. spends the most of any country on health care, yet is 37th in the world in life expectancy.

Kirk countered that the most "broken" and "inefficient" parts of the U.S. health care system are the ones that are government-run, such as the Department of Veterans Affairs and Medicaid.


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"Let me ask a question: Has there ever been a place where your ideas have worked?" Kirk asked.

Moore acknowledged there are "very few" examples, arguing that Cuba has largely turned over control of education and health care to its citizens, with positive results.

Kirk asked if socialism has worked so well, then why has Cuba banned immigration to the U.S. and why are so many Cubans so desperate to leave?

He said that during the Cold War, the "horrific ideas" of socialism were implemented in more than 100 countries -- including Cuba -- and it "ravaged" communities and cultures.

"We forget that. We have short memories," Kirk said. "And unfortunately, it's very easy to be generous with other people's money."

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