The No. 2 Democrat in the House told Neil Cavuto on "Your World" Tuesday that "physical barriers are part of the solution" to border security, but said President Trump was wrong to allow the government to partially shut down.

House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer of Maryland said Trump is "taking hostage the government of the United States," adding that the partial shutdown has instilled "instability and doubt" in America.

However, Cavuto pressed Hoyer on some of the language those on his side of the aisle have used to dismiss Trump's attempts to secure the southern border.

Last week, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) declared walls "immoral" in criticizing the president's actions.

Hoyer, who represents St. Mary's and Charles Counties, responded that "physical barriers" are part of a meaningful solution to the border security problems there.

"It depends what a wall is used for if it's moral or immoral," he said. "That's not the issue [though]. We (Democrats) want border security."


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Hoyer, 79, said that he agreed that the Mexican border should be better secured, but said Trump is engaging in "hostage-taking" by furloughing government workers and suspending essential services in some departments.

Of DACA, which Trump offered on Saturday to extend protections therein for three more years, Hoyer said the president "created that problem" when he attempted to repeal former President Barack Obama's executive order protecting recipients of the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals benefits.

Hoyer also said that Pelosi, in her official capacity as Speaker, controls whether the president is allowed to address the chamber for the State of the Union.

He said that he is not involved in discussions between Pelosi and Trump on the matter, but said that nonetheless, the government should be fully re-opened and that a "rational discussion" must take place on national security.

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