Juan Williams and Jesse Watters debated the importance of the case against retired Gen. Michael Flynn -- in which he pleaded guilty to lying to the FBI.

Williams said that Flynn's case is extremely serious, adding that discussion in the courtroom Tuesday turned to whether the war veteran "sold out his country" in regard to contact with Russian diplomat Sergey Kislyak.

"I don't think there's anything more damning than that," Williams said, adding that the case hasn't yet delved into Flynn's alleged role as an "agent of a foreign government" -- in this case, Turkey.

Jesse Watters disagreed with Williams' assertion, asking where Flynn could've "sold out" the United States in a serious way.  Regarding acting in the interests of foreign entities, Watters said that "everyone in the swamp does that."

"He was just trying to track down some radical cleric in Pennsylvania hiding from [the Turkish government]... It was illegal by not registering [as a foreign agent], but let's not make it out to be a huge scandal."

Turkish President Recep Erdogan has demanded the United States government extradite Fethullah Gulen, who he claims is a political opposition leader allegedly behind the coup attempt in Ankara in 2016.

Gulen has lived for several years in relative seclusion at a religious retreat compound near Wind Gap, Pa., about 25 miles northwest of Easton.

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Flynn allegedly participated in a lobbying campaign to have Gulen extradited from the Poconos to Turkey, the Philadelphia Inquirer reported this week.

Speaking on the Flynn case in general, Greg Gutfeld said the court proceedings are only the focus of the media because "they can't find collusion" involving Donald Trump and the Russians.

The panel on "The Five" noted that the judge in the case, Clinton appointee Emmet Sullivan, is "highly respected" by all political sides, and once went so far as to throw out the conviction of late Sen. Ted Stevens (R-Alaska) by citing "prosecutorial misconduct."

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