It 'Did Not Happen': Giuliani Says Cohen's Claim About Trump Tower Meeting Is 'Categorically Untrue'
President Trump's attorney, Rudy Giuliani, called in to "Outnumbered" Monday to clarify remarks he made earlier in the day on "Fox & Friends" about alleged collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia.
The former New York City mayor said this morning that the president did not collude with the Russians and even if he did so, it wouldn't be a crime.
"When I said today that there was no collusion and that collusion also is no crime, I've been saying that from the very beginning," he said, reacting to new reports that he was attempting to change the narrative.
Giuliani said that the only crime present regarding the Russians is hacking, and it'd be "ridiculous" to think that Trump was involved.
Giuliani added that the Russia probe "has been continued as an illegitimate investigation."
Harris Faulkner then asked Giuliani about the June 2016 meeting at Trump Tower involving Donald Trump Jr., Paul Manafort and Jared Kushner, a Russian lawyer and others on potential "dirt" on Hillary Clinton.
Giuliani added that he had said Trump wasn't in the room for that meeting because there were in fact two different meetings.
Former Trump lawyer Michael Cohen has said he'd be willing to go on the record with the special counsel and say the president did indeed know about the meeting.
"[Cohen] said that he was in President Trump's office, [and] Donald Trump Jr. walked in and told him about the Russian meeting," Giuliani said.
"That is categorically untrue. Did not happen. Two witnesses demonstrate that."
Guy Benson bluntly asked whether Trump knew about the Trump Tower meeting. Giuliani said Trump and senior campaign officials did not know the meeting was taking place.
Giuliani said Mueller is “not entitled” to ask any questions about obstruction of justice, since the president was authorized under the Constitution to remove FBI Director James Comey.
He said Trump will not agree to a sit-down with Mueller until certain parameters are set.
“Right now I’m telling him ‘no way,’” he said, asking why Trump would testify in an investigation that has “no legitimacy.” He said he has a “sense” that Mueller is getting to the end of his investigation.
Giuliani said the “jury” in the case is the American people and public opinion has shifted by 22 points against the Mueller probe and in favor of the president.
He called Trump’s former attorney Michael Cohen a “scoundrel,” accusing him of deceptively recording meetings after assuring those involved that he was not doing so.
Giuliani said there are about a dozen recordings “of substance” made by Cohen. He said about ten of them feature Cohen and reporters, while another one is a tape of Trump, Cohen and CNN anchor Chris Cuomo.