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Former National Security Administration Technical Director Bill Binney told Tucker Carlson he has data showing that the Democrats' narrative regarding Russia hacking the DNC and 2016 election are untrue.

Binney, a member of Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity (VIPS), said the story spread around the mainstream media that Russia is at fault can't necessarily be proven.

He said that during a prior Chinese hack of government systems, NSA agents were able to use "trace route programs" to track the "packets" of information back to a specific building in Shanghai.

Binney said that could be the reason Democrats did not want the FBI to look at their systems- ostensibly because they may not trace back to Russia.

He said a major file that was allegedly hacked from the DNC server was 1,976 megabytes in size and was transmitted in only 87 seconds.

"You made the point that it was moved too fast [that it] couldn't have gone out over the internet," Tucker Carlson surmised.

Binney said it likely was instead transmitted to a storage device.

"Many people are emotionally tied to this agenda, to tie the Russians to President Trump," Binney said.

He said that VIPS is nonpartisan and "tries to look at... the facts."

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