President Donald Trump said Wednesday in an interview with ABC's David Muir that he believes torture "absolutely works" but he will defer to his top advisers, Defense Secretary Gen. James Mattis and CIA Director Mike Pompeo.

He has faced pushback from high level Republicans, especially Sen. John McCain, a former prisoner of war.

"The president can sign whatever executive orders he likes. But the law is the law. We are not bringing back torture in the United States of America," McCain said.

Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell and House Speaker Paul Ryan echoed McCain's statement, with Ryan saying "torture is not legal and we agree with it not being legal."

Thursday on "Outnumbered," Meghan McCain said she is confused by the missed messaged being sent between Trump and his top security advisers.


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"There's obviously a disconnect some place going on," she said. "I think it's really easy for Americans to watch '24,' watch Jack Bauer and think torture is as simple as 'I'm gonna blow your kneecap off and get all the information.'

"General Mattis has said he sometimes gets more information out of people by simply having a drink with them, having a conversation.

"This is a very complex issue. I do believe America is better than this, and if we set the precedents that Americans are now for torture...we're gonna stoop to the same level as these animals...I think it changes what it means to be an American."

Watch the full panel discussion above for additional perspectives from Greg Gutfeld, Kennedy, Dagen McDowell and Harris Faulkner.


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