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Ohio Gov. John Kasich went “On The Record” tonight to explain why his state is one of the at least 31 now refusing entry to Syrian refugees in the wake of the Paris terror attacks.

“We don’t know who they are, we don’t know where they come from, we can’t really trace them,” he told Martha MacCallum.

“And the last thing we want to do is bring them into Ohio, or bring them into the neighborhood, right where we live… And then bad things happen.”

The GOP presidential candidate said he’s sometimes “criticized for having a big heart.”

“I do have a big heart,” he said. “But I also have a pretty good brain, and it seems to me that it makes all the sense in the world to take a ‘pause’ on this, so we can determine who these people are.”

Watch Kasich’s full interview above.

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