NSA leaker Edward Snowden spoke via live stream at the SXSW conference in Austin, Texas, about government surveillance and the Constitution.

Ron Fournier, of National Journal, said he “doesn’t give a hoot” about Snowden, but some of his revelations raised serious questions about balancing security and liberty. However, Fournier said a lot of what he revealed should have been kept secret and has damaged the country’s intelligence.

“I don’t mind being lectured by Ron about the Fourth Amendment and privacy because I respect Ron, but I don’t want to be lectured by a traitor who speaks from a land that doesn’t have a Constitution, or had one and it was entirely eviscerated by a thug who just invaded another land,” Charles Krauthammer said.

Krauthammer said Americans should have a conversation about the Constitution, but not with Snowden leading it.

Watch the clip above.

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