Tucker Carlson debated President George W. Bush's former ethics lawyer, who is running for Senate as a Democrat, over whether the FBI's actions against the Trump campaign constitute "spying."

Richard Painter, who is seeking to fill the seat of the resigned Sen. Al Franken (D-Minn.), said Carlson must "focus on the facts" of the case.

Carlson said that as many as three members of the Trump campaign team were approached by an individual who transmitted information back to "government handlers."

"Democrats are continuing to insult [the viewers'] intelligence saying it wasn't," he said.

Painter said several Republicans, including Reps. Trey Gowdy of South Carolina and Paul Ryan of Wisconsin as well as Sen. Richard Burr of North Carolina, agree that the FBI did not spy on the Trump campaign.


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Carlson asked Painter what he believed personally -- as an attorney and former University of Minnesota professor.

"You've just confirmed whatever Republican leaders say you believe. It's odd you're running as a Democrat," Carlson remarked.

Painter said that if the Russians are "trying to destabilize our country" actions must be taken accordingly by the FBI.

Carlson asked if it is then "unpatriotic" to ask who ordered the clandestine operations.

Painter responded that he instead would rather know why the FBI did not report publicly on the "Trump Tower meeting" involving Donald Trump Jr. and a Russian lawyer prior to the election so voters would've been aware of it.


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