Tucker Carlson debated an immigration attorney tonight over what steps can or should be taken to combat illegal immigrant crime.
Patrick Young was one of the protesters who gathered on Long Island Friday to protest Attorney General Jeff Sessions as he delivered remarks to law enforcement on gang violence.
Sessions said he plans to eradicate the violent MS-13 gang by cracking down on illegal immigration.
Young argued that the proper way to fight MS-13 is to have the immigrant community work with law enforcement, and that won't happen if Sessions and Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) get involved.
He said if we "stigmatize" all immigrants - legal or illegal - it only makes those communities and all Americans less safe.
Tucker pointed out that 92 percent of MS-13 members are illegal immigrants, so it's simply false to argue that immigration has nothing to do with the gang.
"I'm not blaming all immigrants," Tucker said. "I'm merely saying we wouldn't have this problem in the first place if these people weren't here. They don't have a right to be here, they're here illegally, and in this case - in the case of MS-13 - they're murdering people!"
He added that the Obama administration certainly did not "stigmatize" immigrants over the past eight years, yet MS-13 grew during that period.
Young insisted that we must work together to oppose MS-13, and we won't make progress against the gang if communities are divided.
Tucker said Young is so committed to his pro-immigration worldview that he's become "impervious to facts."
Watch the back-and-forth above.