In a "Meet the Press" interview on Sunday, House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi said President Trump's planned border wall is "immoral," "expensive" and "unwise."
Pelosi argued that "the president is expressing a sign of weakness" by wanting to a wall to slow the flow of illegal immigrants crossing the U.S.-Mexico border.
"Democrats do not support the wall," Pelosi said. "Republicans in the border states do not support the wall."
On "Fox & Friends" this morning, however, two Arizona ranchers begged to differ.
John Ladd, who raises beef cattle at the San Jose Ranch on the border, said he's seen a 90 to 95 percent drop in illegal immigrant crossings since Trump was elected and since they put an 18-foot-high Ballard fence on their property.
"With that activity, it's almost nonexistent to see an illegal anymore," Ladd said.
Fred Davis, who runs a ranch near Tombstone, Arizona, mere miles from Mexico, pointed out that most communities near the border already have high fences.
He explained that the proposed border wall is necessary to protect outlying areas that only have a barbed wire fence, which is where most illegal immigrants enter the country.
“The wall itself is just a tool in the kit, but you’ve gotta put boots on the ground to go with it to make it effective," Davis added. "And that’s been part of the problem in places they have a wall now."
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