Chip and Joanna Gaines - stars of the HGTV show "Fixer Upper" - are Christians and attend a Texas church whose pastor believes in traditional marriage. 

So what? That's what Julie Roginsky and her "Outnumbered" co-panelists asked this afternoon, wondering why the couple should be shamed by the media over the church they attend.

The controversy started a few days ago when Buzzfeed's Kate Aurthur published a piece titled, "Chip And Joanna Gaines' Church Is Firmly Against Same-Sex Marriage."

The report calls out pastor Jimmy Seibert for his "hard line against same-sex marriage," and for promoting conversion for LGBT people.

Aurthur admitted she does not know the Gaines' stance on same-sex marriage, but Buzzfeed's editor-in-chief Ben Smith doubled down on the story, saying it's about HGTV "refusing to say whether they ban LGBT people from a TV show."

In a statement, HGTV said, "We don’t discriminate against the LGBT community in any of our shows."

Julie Roginsky, a staunch supporter of marriage equality, said the Gaines and their pastor "believe what they believe ... and it's none of our business." 

"If you're a Catholic and you go to a Catholic church, are you not allowed to be on TV because you support a church that doesn't support marriage equality? ... If you don't agree with my position [on gay rights], it doesn't mean you should be thrown off of television," said Roginsky. 

Meghan McCain called it the "Duck Dynast-ification" of TV, where you need to hold liberal beliefs in order to have a hit show. 

Watch the full discussion above and let us know what you think. 


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