Fox News viewers know by now that perhaps no one feels more strongly about the NSA's infringement on personal privacy than Judge Andrew Napolitano.
And on Special Report's "Center Seat" Thursday night, GOP presidential candidate Carly Fiorina was pressed by Napolitano about her views toward government surveillance.
The judge pointed out that while Fiorina worked as CEO of Hewlett-Packard and in the years after, she assisted then-NSA Director Gen. Michael Hayden in setting up the surveillance apparatus.
Napolitano said the result was the world's "most extensive" spy network, capable of intercepting every phone call, text message and email in the United States.
"[It's] a scheme that four federal judges have found profoundly violates the Fourth Amendment's requirement of individualized suspicion. And one that the Justice Department has said has not stopped a single terrorist act or aided in a single prosecution of terrorist behavior. Are you proud of where that spy system has gotten us today or should it be dialed back?" the judge asked.
Fiorina said her role in helping Hayden may have been "overstated" by Napolitano, but acknowledged that she "had the privilege of serving" as chairman of the CIA's advisory board.
She said she advised the NSA and CIA "to be as transparent as possible" about the vast surveillance capabilities.
"When people don't understand what's going on, they fear the worst," said Fiorina.
Napolitano countered that the president could dial back NSA surveillance with the "stroke of a pen," asking Fiorina whether she would do that, if elected.
"I would dial it back somewhat," she said, arguing that the recently-passed USA Freedom Act was successful in "dialing back" the NSA.
Fiorina said that the decision to hand over responsibility to phone companies is a "bad idea," and described the new law as a "hodgepodge that doesn't satisfy anybody."
Watch the exchange above and longer clips of Fiorina's interview below.
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