On "Outnumbered" today, things got heated between Kirsten Powers and #oneluckyguy Tucker Carlson during discussion on a bill the House is currently debating that would appropriate $659 million for the border crisis.

The White House has already threatened a veto of the bill, which could speed up the deportation of thousands of children at the Texas-Mexico border, saying the amount is not enough and could put children in jeopardy.


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All this unfolds as recent polls show American approval for President Obama’s immigration policies has dropped from 38% to 31% in the past two months.

Carlson said this is a complete disaster for Democrats and those who were for more liberal immigration reform because it signifies that they have lost the American public.


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Powers said that this bill is more an issue of asylum than of immigration. She pointed to a different poll that said 70% of Americans were in favor of those foreign children getting asylum and proper care while the situation is sorted out.

She said Republicans don’t see this as two issues, as the American people do, and don’t want to give these children due process and a fair hearing.

“What the Republicans want to do is the opposite of humanitarian,” Powers stated.


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She characterized these views as un-American, and went at it with Carlson on whether the U.S. has a responsibility and moral obligation to try to help people who seek asylum.

Carlson said foreign citizens don’t have a moral or legal right to American tax dollars and physical asylum in the United States. He doesn't believe anyone suffering around the world can simply come to this country and be taken care of.

"So I have a moral obligation to share my earnings and my country with people I've never met because they're suffering?" he asked.

Powers said "yes," asking whether Carlson is a Christian and had ever read the Bible.

"You've never heard of America as a refuge for people who are persecuted?" Powers asked

"I've seen a bumper sticker, but what does that mean?" he answered.

Kimberly Guilfoyle interjected that those who want to come to the U.S. should do so legally.

Watch the full debate above.