Bill O’Reilly questioned Kirsten Powers over recent controversial remarks she made on Fox News Watch about conservatives bringing up black-on-black crime as a way to “stick it” to the black community.

“Are you including me in that sound bite?” asked the Factor host, who has been outspoken about his thoughts on black crime and the race hustlers in America.

Powers responded, “Are you conservative, Bill?”

“I don’t believe I am. I think I’m traditional,” O’Reilly answered.

Powers said she was referring to the pundits that she deals with every day, naming those who appeared on Fox News with her including Cal Thomas, Jim Pinkerton and Rich Lowry.

She doubled down on her remarks, saying this topic has become an “obsession” of conservatives since the Trayvon Martin case. “It was no different under the Bush administration in terms of black-on-black crime.”

O’Reilly argued that the Trayvon Martin case was talked about until “we were going to faint.” He explained that when George Zimmerman was acquitted of murdering Martin, people in the “grievance industry” were disappointed in the verdict so they leveled charges that America is a racist country.

From there, he said, the discussion turned to pointing out that “violence in this country isn’t generated by whites, it’s generated primarily by blacks.”

Martin didn’t deserve to die and every fair-minded person knows that, O’Reilly said. But the discussion moved from protecting Martin to “white people want to hurt black people.” He added, “That is false! And that’s why the discussion about the intensity of black crime arose.”

Powers and O’Reilly argued over race being a factor in the case, with O’Reilly called her “desperately wrong.”

Watch the interview above.