VIDEO, TRANSCRIPT: Dick Durbin's Fiery Exchange With Bret Baier Over "God" Being Removed From Democratic Platform
On tonight's Special Report, Bret Baier's interview with Sen. Dick Durbin turned heated when he asked the politician why the word "God" was taken out of this year's platform. Durbin evaded the question, saying "God is not a franchise of the Republican party."
Read the full and heated discussion below and watch the video.
Bret: God was taken out of the platform, why do that?
Durbin: Well, I can just basically tell you if the narrative that is being presented on your station, and through your channel and your network is the Democrats are godless people, they ought to know better. God is not a franchise of the Republican party... (Bret: no, no, but) Those of us who believe in God and those of us who have dedicated our lives to helping others in the name of God, don’t want to take a second seat to anyone who is suggesting that one word out of the platform means the Democrats across America are godless, come on Bret.
Bret: No, no, no - I don’t think that’s what’s being said; we’re reporting what’s in the platform - in 2008, God was mentioned once; in 2004, it was mentioned seven times; in 2000 it was mentioned four times, so it’s just a question... (Durbin: what’s the question) So the question is, why take it out this time?
Durbin: What I’m basically saying to you is if you’re trying to draw some conclusion (Bret: I’m not trying to draw...) that the Democrats are godless, present your evidence, present your evidence.
Bret: I’m just asking the
question: why was the word taken out?
Durbin: I’m just telling you, you are carping on a trifle. We know that both parties are are devoted to this country, both parties are God-fearing parties, let’s get on with the agenda about creating jobs in America about justice in this country.
Bret: And we’re going to talk about that in a second, we are talking about the platform here and there are two changes that we just noted, one is that God was taken out from 2008 to 2012 and two, that Jerusalem was not mentioned; I’m not drawing conclusions, I’m just asking why these changes were made.
Durbin: Bret, let me just say, I chaired the platform committee for two Democratic conventions. We produced the most unread document in the history of American politics, to suggest that this document and the insertion of two words here and one word there, now defines politics in America suggests to me that you’re not focusing on the real issues that American care about. (Bret: But senator, you know...) We want the American people to get back to work (Bret: I understand that...) We want to continue to create jobs.
Bret: And let’s talk about that in one second, but you know that Democrats in Tampa talked about the Republican platform and what was and what is not in there, so when I’m asking you about these two changes and two words, I’m just asking why, I’m not drawing conclusions.
Durbin: First, I’m telling you your conclusions are wrong if you’re drawing them, (Bret: I’m not) and secondly, let me tell you the first president to recognize the state of Israel was Harry Truman, a Democrat and every president since, Democrat and Republican, has stood closely with Israel. I know what’s going on here, (Bret: okay...) It’s an effort to justify Sheldon Adelson and the money he is spending in the name of really standing up for Israel (Bret: Listen), the Democrats and Republicans are committed to Israel’s future and security, and I’m one of them.
Bret: Understand, no Republican took those words out of the Democratic platform, so I’m just making the point.
Durbin: and your taking those two words coming out means our relationships with Israel has changed
Bret: No, I’m just asking the question.
Durbin: Is that fair?
Bret: I’m just asking why it was changed.
Durbin: Is that fair, is that balanced?
Bret: Why was it changed?
Durbin: I wasn’t on the platform committee...
Bret: I’m going to move on.
Durbin: I hope you will.