A union of engineers in Indiana is suing the state under the 13th Amendment, claiming that the state’s “right-to-work” law is unconstitutional because the union says that forcing its members to work alongside non-union personnel who have the same benefits is like slavery.

Todd Vandermyde, the legislative affairs director of the union, joined America Live to explain the case. He delved into the “right-to-work” law, which allows employees to decide if they will join the union, saying that it provides those employees with union services free of charge. He sees this as a violation of the 13th Amendment, which abolished indentured servitude.

When Megyn pointed out that the crux of the 13th Amendment is that it abolished forcing people into some sort of work, which clearly isn’t the case here. Vandermyde said, “Remember, that we are now caught between state law and federal law. The state law says that we cannot charge for our particular services that we do, but under federal labor law we are obligated to represent every person in the bargaining unit, members and non-members alike.”

He continued, “If we don’t represent people who choose not to be members and do not to pay any dues, then we get what’s called a ‘duty for fair representation’ complaint against us. So, under federal law, we are obligated, once we become the certified bargaining agent for a particular unit, that we have to represent them under federal law.”

He says that according to the state, they can’t charge for those services so it’s in essence “a forced representation without compensation.”